Monday, September 1, 2008

Day 7 post 2

Everywhere we turn, someone is trying to persuade us--to buy a product, to vote for a candidate, to adopt a policy, to agree with certaint opinions. An attempt to do this on an organized or large scale, aiming atlarge numbers of people, is called propaganda. When we see the harmful effects of propaganda, we become fearful of it, but it is not always harmful.Advertising is one form of propaganda; writing our opinions to newspapers is another. So too, oftentimes, are political maneuvers. Propaganda is harmful when unscrupulous persuaders try to take advantage of people who are not equipped to "see through" the techniques being used, who are not being careful to distinguish factual evidence from opinion, or to question the source and reliability of the facts.

Now we will try to become more aware of the ways we are being appealed to, the ways LOGICAL FALLACIES (that is, faults in logic) are used by those who wish to cloud our logical thinking processes. To be aware of these commonly used techniques is to be
armed against them.

Please assemble a group of two to four members. Then each member will read the short story at the following link:
http://studentweb.hunter.cuny.edu/~murrayj/humor/loveisfallacy.html

PS the ending cut off/ Here it is:
Heartened by the knowledge that Polly was not altogether a cretin, I began a long, patient review of all I had told her. Over and over and over again I cited instances, pointed out flaws, kept hammering away without letup. It was like digging a tunnel. At first everything was work, sweat, and darkness. I had no idea when I would reach the light, or even if I would. But I persisted. I pounded and clawed and scraped, and finally I was rewarded. I saw a chink of light. And then the chink got bigger and the sun came pouring in and all was bright.
Five grueling nights this took, but it was worth it. I had made a logician out of Polly; I had taught her to think. My job was done. She was worthy of me at last. She was a fit wife for me, a proper hostess for my many mansions, a suitable mother for my well-heeled children.
It must not be thought that I was without love for this girl. Quite the contrary. Just as Pygmalion loved the perfect woman he had fashioned, so I loved mine. The time had come to change our relationship from academic to romantic.
"Polly," I said when we next sat beneath our oak, "tonight we will not discuss fallacies."
"Aw, gee," she said, disappointed.
"My dear," I said, favoring her with a smile, "we have now spent five evenings together. We have gotten along splendidly. It is clear that we are well matched."
"Hasty Generalization," said Polly brightly.
"I beg your pardon," said I.
"Hasty Generalization," she repeated. "How can you say that we are well matched on the basis of only five dates?"
I chuckled with amusement. The dear child had learned her lessons well. "My dear," I said, patting her head in a tolerant manner, "five dates is plenty. After all, you don't have to eat a whole cake to know that it's good."
"False Analogy," said Polly promptly. "I'm not a cake. I'm a girl."
I chuckled with somewhat less amusement. The dear child had learned her lesson perhaps too well. I decided to change tactics. Obviously the best approach was a simple, strong, direct declaration of love. I paused for a moment while my massive brain chose the proper words. Then I began:
"Polly, I love you. You are the whole world to me, and the moon and the stars and the constellations of outer space. Please, my darling, say that you will go steady with me, for if you will not, life will be meaningless. I will languish. I will refuse my meals. I will wander the face of the earth, a shambling, hollow-eyed hulk."
There, I thought, folding my arms, that ought to do it.
"Ad Misericordiam," said Polly.
I ground my teeth. I was not Pygmalion; I was Frankenstein, and my monster had me by the throat. Frantically I fought back the tide of panic surging through me. At all costs I had to keep cool.
"Well, Polly," I said, forcing a smile, "you certainly have learned your fallacies."
"You're darn right," she said with a vigorous nod.
"And who taught them to you, Polly?"
"You did."
"That's right. So you do owe me something, don't you, my dear? If I hadn't come along you would never have learned about fallacies."
"Hypothesis Contrary to Fact," she said instantly.
I dashed perspiration from my brow. "Polly," I croaked, "You mustn't take all these things so literally. I mean this is just classroom stuff. You know that the things you learn in school don't have anything to do with life."
"Dicto Simpliciter," she said, wagging her finger at me playfully.
That did it. I leaped to my feet, bellowing like a bull. "Will you or will you not go steady with me?"
"I will not," she replied.
"Why not?" I demanded.
"Because this afternoon I promised Petey Bellows that I would go steady with him."
I reeled back, overcome with the infamy of it. After he promised, after he made a deal, after he shook my hand! "That rat!" I shrieked, kicking up great chuncks of turf. "You can't go with him, Polly. He's a liar. He's a cheat. He's a rat."
"Poisoning the Well," said Polly, "and stop shouting. I think shouting must be a fallacy too."
With an immense effort of will, I modulated my voice. "All right," I said. "You're a logician. Let's look at this thing logically. How could you choose Petey Bellows over me? Look at me--a brilliant student, a tremendous intellectual, a man with an assured future. Look at Petey--a knot-head, a jitterbug, a guy who'll never know where his next meal is coming from. Can you give me one logical reason why you should go steady with Petey Bellows?"
"I certainly can," declared Polly. "He's got a racoon coat."

Or you can read the full version (ending is not cut off) at
http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/gburton/love%20is%20a%20fallacy.htm

Next, discuss the story with your group and have one member write up a well-developed paragraph addressing the following questions:
1. What amusing lesson or lessons do readers learn from reading the story?
2. Do you think love is in fact a fallacy?

Only one group member need post the paragraph, but be sure to include all group member's names in it.

12 comments:

Jenna said...

I believe the most important lesson you can learn from Max Shulman’s article “Love is a Fallacy”, is that you cannot change people. Here he is trying to make her into the perfect lawyers wife. He knows nothing about her besides her personal appearance. When he finds out she isn’t into logic or academia as much as he, he sets out to re-develop her. It is also important to not that he and Polly are two totally different types of creatures. He is logical to a fault and purely unemotional, whereas Polly thrives on the moment and lets her emotions run wild.
Do I believe love is fact or fallacy? I would have to pick fact. Love is evident. It can be found anywhere and everywhere. You cannot dissect it or understand it. You can only try to not get to carried away. It is important to keep a logical head while in love but also remember to follow your heart. I would believe love was a fallacy if I didn’t have everyday proof that it exists.

stephanie said...

This story is of a common college dorm situation. On one side of the dorm are the people who are there to learn and get a good education to be able to move up in life, and on the other side are the people who are there for a good time and do not really care about the education. They are the people who are going to be regretting the decisions they made in school, they think that while they are there getting drunk and following the people that are self proclaimed “cool” that they too will be “cool” and that is the only thing that matters to them at that time in their life. This is a more amusing story about two completely different roommates, personality wise, who each have something the other one wants. One of them wants something in order to be “cool” according to his peers. While the other one wants to further his career that he will have after graduation. One is looking at what will satisfy him now while the other is looking into the future and what will be best for him then. Both are ignorant and only thinking of themselves. Remembering not to get so caught up in trends and to focus on what will be better for your life in the future, but do not focus so much on your career that it takes over everything you do. Money isn’t everything, yes it does help and will provide security, but it isn’t everything. This guy that is only interested in his friends girl isn’t thinking about anyone but himself. He doesn’t love her and really doesn’t really even care about her, he just wants her in order to further his career he will hopefully have in the future. He wants this so much that he gave his friend an ultimatum by choosing his girl or this coat. It is sad when you will choose a trend over the person you are seeing. It shows how little you care about them and what is really important at that time in their life. I think that they both have some thinking to do and some maturing to to.

Sharmaine said...

I really like how this is written! But I really thought this was amusing to read. One could read this and re-educate themselves in the ways of logical thinking. And in this case, love is definitely a fallacy, the ending made me "lol". But is love a never-ending mess of double-standards and confusion, attempting to apply emotions to logical principles and vice-versa, then yes!

EYESACK said...

I believe the main point of this story was the fact that you cannot change a person. Naturally we are attracted to our opposites. The protagonist, being a keen observer and a logical thinker, was attracted to a woman who was his intellectual counter-part. In my opinion, love is something that will most often force you to defy your own logic, for if we were completely logical in our search for love, there would be no excitement in taking a chance. Logically it would have been unwise for him to seek relationship with this woman. While I believe that love is fact, I also believe that you can not apply it to the theory of logic.

tommy said...

Tommy
David Morra

You can not forcefully change somebody into somebody their are not without their cooperation. This person approached the situation in a totally wrong manner by thinking he can change her to being "smart". You can't manipulate somebody in to love.

Love is not a fallacy because of true love do not have to be manipulated in order to be true love. True love is pure.

SuperKaiju said...

A lesson learned is more then likely never jump to conclusions. Max thought just because he was in theory 'better' then Pete, that Polly would choose him. Also that he thought just because he thought something was dumb, doesn't mean everyone doesn't like it. As example Polly liking Pete's Racoon Coat, which ironically Max gave Pete, to get Polly.

Is love a fallacy? To be honest, thats hard to answer. First you have to ask yourself, what is love? To me love is something between families members and not much more. I'm not sure how I can say how thats a fault in logic. Some would say that it can be between strangers, but to me thats odd since you don't know them. To love someone to me takes time, and for something other then non conditional love would take time, assuming something like that exists. Again, its hard to say if love is a fallacy since its hard to even say if its real.

justinleake said...

Maybe the lesson learned here is to "be careful what you wish for." Or perhaps the lesson is that people may change but people can't make people change. Though, maybe the most prevalent lesson, is that you cannot put logic to love. For the second part of the question; I believe love is certainly a logical fallacy. I can say that I have done many many stupid things, or illogical things, in the name of love. I have put off living, all for that feel-good, achy-heart, impalpable mush. I have driven 40 minutes for 20 minutes in the company of love. Love is the poster-child for illogical fallacies, the poster-child, the spokesman, and the head of the class all in one.

Anonymous said...

The roller coaster that I have described too many times. "Love is a Fallacy" by Mark Shulman speaks of such. You'd think to change others to benefit yourself, yet it sometimes backfires when least expected. The mind may reform but the heart will always stay the same. Love can not be bought. Nor sold.

ablogger said...

From the Story Love is a Fallacy
by Max Shulman

One roommate was able to coerce the other with a bribe of fashionable clothes. The materialistic roommate gave up the chance to date a pretty coed just for the clothes. The roommate who initiated the changes attempted to teach the young lady creative thinking in an effort to win her heart. Ironically she ultimately chose the latter because of her appeal to novelty, a common fallacy.

SalimRenee said...

One lesson gleaned from Max Shulman’s article Love is a Fallacy is “look before you leap.” Be sure to know what you are getting yourself into. If the protagonist had merely taken some time to get to know Polly, he may have saved himself a lot of trouble. While he was so busy trying to make her into what he wanted, he didn’t bother to find out what she liked. Another lesson would be to “be careful what you wish for.” His quest to educate Polly in the ways of logic completely backfired on him. She used his teachings to tear apart every argument he had for their relationship moving forward.
Do I believe love is a fallacy? Most certainly not. I see it every day in the eyes of my children. There really isn’t a whole lot of logic to love. Its either there or it isn’t. Those who believe it is a fallacy have probably been hurt in the past. Just because love ends, doesn’t mean it didn’t exist in the first place.

Brian Simmons said...

First i must say that this has been one of the best stories i have read in a while. The best lesson i can get from this story is that you shouldnt try to change someone just to try and get them to fall in love with you. You should want to be with someone for who they are, not what you want them to be. If you have to change someone in order to make them like you, then whats the point. Why not find someone who already fits your criteria.
Love is indeed a fact to me. I think it is the most powerful force in the universe. It can have you jumping for joy one day to balling up in a corner and crying your eyes out the next day. I think everyone is meant to feel love at some point in their life(and i dont mean family/friends).
Taking a personal approach to it, i just recently got out of a 3 year relationship and it has been the toughest thing i have ever gone through. Having soooo much love for one person and not being able to express that love to the person is mind-bending. I know my love for this person is very real. If it wasnt, then i would be able to move on with my life, and this person wouldnt be on my mind constantly.

Eric said...

This article was very interesting and shows both sides of a college student. One of which is who goes out, parties, and has a good time everynight, while on the other hand you have the traditional student that doesn't go out on the weekends and sits home and studies all the time. Both people are trying to get a girl and each thinks that they are better than the other in some way and they will get her, but in reality it is the girls choice of who she wants. The lesson that is learned here is that nothing is what it seems, you cannot change someone to who you want them to be everyone is there own person and they do what they do.